2019 CIF State Wrestling Championships Schedule

[96Olympian]

Random thoughts from the peanut gallery:

1.  Go back to the 3rd post by Adam T and it sums up the stupidly of the California CIF.  This schedule does not even come close to doing anything correct in the real world.  Everybody loves the World Challenge and getting in and out with sessions and nobody liked the Freakshow hanging out two full days.  There is a reason California is number 46th in the country in education because the same educated idiots that came up with his schedule also run our schools and districts.  When you don’t have to answer to your constituates you don’t have to make change, we, the wrestling community are voiceless because CIF realizes we have no choice and will have to do what they come up with.  This is really, really dumb!

2.  If I’m reading the schedule correctly boys weigh-in on Thursday at 7am but don’t wrestle til 1.  Interesting, maybe we won’t see the first round loses because of a kid cutting his weight wrong because they will have more time to hydrate.  Oops, those loses will come in the 9am Semi Finals on saturday AM —again, dumb, dumb, dumb.  Best round of the tournament will  happen when kids have the least amount of time to hydrate.  Interesting.

3.  Day 2 the boys will weigh in at 7am and wrestle wrestle at 3pm.  Can I suggest a drive to lake Isabella after weigh ins or drive up and eat lunch on the Kern.  Long day for parents of the studs to watch 6 minutes.  LAME!

4.  Did  bettermove use the words “Good Doctor”?  Priceless!

5.  Remember when everyone though girls wrestling was going to save the sport?  How did that work out for the 10 Olympic Weights.

6.  Someone mentioned only medal winners coming back on Saturday?  I would personally  have a hard time getting motivated to wrestle in a 5th place or 7th place match.  Could be important in the team race if a kid misses weight and they take out all of his points.

7.  I don’t think a 3 day event is a bad idea.  I don’t think that adding the girls is a bad idea either but the schedule they came up with is stupid.

8.  Stop complaining about missing school.  I only remember one great lesson in class from one teacher in high school.  I have a ton of great memories from high school wrestling tournaments and road trips.  As a matter of fact, I’m pretty sure I took the day off to go fishing before we left for the state meet.  Missing school was one of the biggest perks of wrestling on high school.

C L Crazy Lawson

[herdroll]

We can do that GR Olympian, sure, but people were getting over their anger and just started coming up with possible compromises/solutions.  Wrestling community will be as ready as they can be for the tournament what they are given.  They just don't want to be given what they are going to get and are not going to like it afterwards.  Don't think trying to slow some productive thoughts is the answer.  People are starting to throw out solutions now and the ball is now rolling.  Why wait until after to evolve what has been given to the rank and file wrestling community.  Think it's great you are an Olympian and very well respected I might ad, but IMHO I personally was just liking how some solutions on a compromise were coming out.   

[a. wight]

I find this suggestion fairly laughable.  After having placed a call to the Section Ass. Commissioner in our section, it was clear their input was not solicited on this change either.  After speaking to our representative to the Wrestling Advisory Board, he helped make it clear that he was "informed" of this decision, rather than having a say, therefore never having had a chance to represent the interests of the coaches in his section.   And, the last time we tried to bring a concern to the "head table," Mr. Paradise dismissed us and treated us like we were bothering him, rather than being invited to have a conversation.   

This was a decision made in isolation by the state CIF office and a select few.  Now, you want us to complain to our section staffs and commissioners, who weren't involved in the process.  I'm pretty sure our section knows how we feel, but they feel powerless to do anything about it, as do those of us at the ground level.  Instead it would be refreshing to hear how we can have a better process to discuss these types of potential changes to our system, before decisions like this are made. 

This thread is like a "debate" about politics on Twitter. It exists in a vacuum, and nobody in charge of policy/decision-making cares about the feedback contained within it, and all of us drive ourselves crazy carrying on the discussion that will, inevitably, lead to nothing being changed and a lot of us getting even more angry than we were before joining the discussion.

Wrestling Community,
If this combined boys/girls 3-day schedule is a complete and utter disaster and epic failure (which we can spend another thread on debating what disaster/failure would look like) then let your section commissioners and CIF know during (vis a vi the head table) and after the event (e-mail)! Otherwise, if you are a coach, focus on getting your athletes ready for what is going to be one of the most competitive seasons in a while........the individual rankings are going to be NAILS. Team race will be too.... Peace!

Preseason State Rankings

 

Release date 106, 113, 120 – November 12, 2018

Release date 126, 132, 138 – November 13, 2018

Release date 145, 152, 160 – November 14, 2018

Release date 170, 182, 195 – November 15, 2018

Release date 220, 285, Team – November 16, 2018

[goldenlace]

96 greco - What was the date and venue this schedule was decided, and what is the names of those in the room at the time?  This might clear up a lot of the smoke and mirrors and give some accountability and an avenue to be educated.  If the wrestling community cant be afforded information like this, we are in some real trouble.

[AMorris]

This is absolutely true, grades matter. My son was on the bubble of being accepted to a pretty good college. It's not always a done deal after January. They called his high school to check up on his grades during the winter semester, he was able to take some actions that improved his profile, and it paid off. Many of the elite colleges will check up on kids, even after they've been accepted. You simply cannot afford to write off the second half of senior year.

When I think back to the many many excellent high school wrestlers I've seen in California, there are too few of them who move on to academically high level colleges. This many days off from school is not good. Missing Wed-Fri is a big hit for kids taking multiple AP classes, competing with the other kids on the robotics team, etc.

I respectfully disagree with the post before this.  People are going to do something about this.  The fire will get really hot after this state tournament.  These coaches are going to do something about it.  We also have kids that are trying to get very good grades to get into good colleges....missing three days of calculus?  Some kids, coaches and parents can roll in Wednesday after school that are nearby, but kids in SD, Imperial Valley North Coast, North Section are 8, 10, 12, 14 hours away......got to get up early on Wednesday.  What about those working parents that will lose another pay for a day?  People are watching this thread......TCW is watched by all the wrestling community.  Thank goodness for what TCW does or we couldn't air this out. The wrestling community will come onto the mat ready to go OT to get their input in to figure this out right after the state tournament.